This is an HTML version of an attachment to the Freedom of Information request 'Staff instructions on asnswering "So when" question'.


If not delivered return to PO Box 7820 Canberra BC ACT 2610                        
 
 
 
14 January 2021 
 
 
 
Our reference:  LEX 60430 
Mr Anatoly Kern  
 
Only by email: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx  
 
 
Dear Mr Kern 
Your Freedom of Information Request 
I refer to your request dated and received by Services Australia (the agency) on 12 January 
2021 for access under the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (the FOI Act) to the following 
document:  
I am looking to obtain a copy of the internal staff instruction on how to respond to "So 
when" question, which is completely pronounced as "So when are you going to 
comply with the limitation of s25c and accept responsibility for knowingly participating 
in criminal harassment actions, unlawfully using violence and causing permanent 
disability." 
 
 
If you are having issues locating this document I am sure that NCP UB55Y would be 
of your service on that, or anyone from the department of Serial Criminals that is 
causing the death of more than a thousand people every year, but not taking the 
responsibility for it. 
 
Practical Refusal Reason  
 
Currently your request does not sufficiently identify the document you require. The agency is 
therefore formally consulting with you under section 24AB of the FOI Act.  
 
This letter is giving you an opportunity to provide us with specific information about the 
documents you need. Providing this additional information will assist the agency in 
processing your request.  
 
If you decide not to provide further information or revise your request, I will have to refuse 
your FOI request as a ‘practical refusal reason’ exists. For a more detailed explanation of 
what this means, including some suggestions on what to consider when revising your 
request, please see Attachment A.  
 
How to send us a 'revised request' 
Before I make a final decision on your request, you can submit a revised request.  
Within the next 14 days (consultation period) you must do one of the following, in writing:  
  withdraw the request 
  make a revised request or 
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  tell us that you do not want to revise your request.  
If you do not contact us during the consultation period, we will assume you do not want to 
continue with your request. See Attachment A for relevant sections of the FOI Act. 
If you decide to make a revised request you should be specific about what documents you 
actually want. This could help the agency find the documents. 
We have 30 days to give you a decision about your request, however the time taken to 
consult with you now is not included in this 30 day time period. 
Contact officer 
I am the contact officer for your request. During the consultation period you are welcome to 
ask for my help in revising your request. You can contact me: 
  in writing to the address at the top of this letter or 
  via email to xxx.xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx 
Note: When you contact us please quote the reference number FOI LEX 60430
Your response will be expected by 28 January 2021. If no response is received, your matter 
will be taken as withdrawn. 
Timeframe for processing your request  
The agency received your request on 12 January 2021 and the 30 day statutory period for 
processing your request commended from the day after that date. However, we note the 
consultation period referred to above is not included in this 30 day time period. The period of 
30 days may also be extended if we need to consult third parties or for other reasons.  
Charges  
The agency will advise you if a charge is payable to process your request and the amount of 
any such charge as soon as practicable. No charge is payable for providing a person with 
their own personal information.  
Your address  
The FOI Act requires that you provide us with an address which we can send notices to. You 
have advised that your electronic address is foi+request-7014-
xxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx. We
 will send all notices and correspondence to this address. 
Please advise us as soon as possible if you wish correspondence to be sent to another 
address or if your address changes. If you do not wish to advise us of changes to your 
address, correspondence and notices will continue to be sent to the address specified above.  
Administrative release of documents  
The agency has administrative access arrangements (arrangements) for the release of 
certain documents without the need for a formal FOI request. Unless you advise us 
otherwise, in processing your request we may provide you with documents under these 
arrangements where appropriate. The arrangements do not extend to information or 
materials of third parties. You will be notified when documents are released to you under the 
arrangements.  
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Disclosure log  
Please note that information released under the FOI Act may be published in a disclosure log 
on the agency’s website. Section 11C of the FOI Act requires this publication, however it is 
subject to certain exceptions, including where publication of personal, business, professional 
or commercial information would be unreasonable.  
Exclusion of junior staff details  
The agency is working towards ensuring that all staff have a choice about whether they 
provide their full name, personal logon identifiers and direct contact details in response to 
public enquiries. Where such details are included in the scope of a request, this may add to 
processing time and applicable charges as it may be necessary to consider whether the 
details are exempt under the FOI Act. On this basis, unless you tell us otherwise, we will 
assume that these details are out of scope of your request and they will be redacted under 
section 22 of the FOI Act.  
Further assistance 
If you have any questions please email xxx.xxxxx.xxxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.  
 
Yours sincerely 
 
Alexandra  
Authorised FOI Decision Maker 
Freedom of Information Team 
Employment Law and FOI Branch | Legal Services Division  
Services Australia 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Attachment A 
 
 
What I took into account 

You requested access under the FOI Act to the following documents:  
 
I am looking to obtain a copy of the internal staff instruction on how to respond to "So 
when" question, which is completely pronounced as "So when are you going to 
comply with the limitation of s25c and accept responsibility for knowingly participating 
in criminal harassment actions, unlawfully using violence and causing permanent 
disability." 
 
 
If you are having issues locating this document I am sure that NCP UB55Y would be 
of your service on that, or anyone from the department of Serial Criminals that is 
causing the death of more than a thousand people every year, but not taking the 
responsibility for it. 
 
Your request is unclear  
Currently your request does not sufficiently identify the documents you require. Section 
15(2)(b) of the FOI Act requires that you must provide such information concerning a 
document as is reasonably necessary to identify it.  
For example, your request makes reference to complying with ‘the limitation of s 25C’. I am 
seeking clarification as to what you mean by ‘the limitation of s25c.’ I have conducted 
preliminary consultations within the agency and I have been advised that it is not clear what 
type of information you are seeking.  
As a large service delivery provider, the agency is responsible for administering a broad 
variety of programs and payments. To allow us to identify the documents you are requesting, 
we would be grateful if you could please provide further detail describing the requested 
document. For example, ‘s25C’ appears to refer to a legislative provision. Providing the 
precise citation of the relevant legislation will assist the agency identify the document you are 
requesting.  
Assistance to revise your request  
In order to allow the agency identify the documents you are requesting, we would 
recommend you revise your request by specifying:  
  the citation of the legislation which includes ‘s25C’ 
  the meaning of ‘the limitation of s25C’  
  the type of document you are requesting (e.g. policy documents, training documents, 
documents relating to a debt, relating to Centrelink or medicare etc.) and 
  a date range for the creation of the document, if known (for example, 1 January 2019 
– 1 January 2020).  
If you do not revise, I intend to refuse your FOI request as a ‘practical refusal reason’ exists 
under sections 24AA(1)(b) and 24 of the FOI Act. Under the FOI Act, the practical refusal 
reason is that your request does not satisfy the requirements in section 15(2)(b) 
(identification of documents).  
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Relevant sections of the Freedom of Information Act 1982 
Section 24AA(1)(b) of the FOI Act provides that a practical refusal reason exists in relation to 
a request for a document if the request does not satisfy the requirement in section 15(2)(b) of 
the FOI Act.   
Section 15(2)(b) of the FOI Act provides that a request must provide such information as is 
reasonably necessary to enable the agency to identify the documents that are being 
requested.   
Section 24AB(6) says that the applicant must, before the end of the consultation period, do 
one of the following, by written notice to the agency or Minister: 
  withdraw the request 
  make a revised request or 
  indicate that the applicant does not wish to revise the request. 
Section 24AB(7) of the FOI Act provides that the request is taken to have been withdrawn at 
the end of the consultation period if: 
  the applicant does not consult the contact person during the consultation period in 
accordance with the notice or 
  the applicant does not do one of the things mentioned in subsection (6) before the 
end of the consultation period. 
 
 
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