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Question: 37
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Environmental Assessment Costs
Proof Hansard page: 66
Senator COLBECK asked: Senator COLBECK: So, under the arrangement that you have with SEWPaC, a level 1
environmental assessment costs $12,605, a level 2 environmental assessment costs $3,255
and a level 3 environmental assessment costs $620?
Mr Matthew: I would like to check if those figures have moved on but essentially they were
the figures that we spoke about in October last year. If the agency accepts the work order to
do that work—in this case, environmental level 1—the expectation is the work will be done
and we will provide them the value as stipulated in the table.
Senator COLBECK: But you need to confirm on notice?
Mr Matthew: I would like to take on notice if we have in fact revised any of those fees since
July 2010. There were negotiations underway late last year to revise fees to take account of
current costs. But I might add that, if there is a considerable amount of additional work and
we cannot agree that it fits one of the predetermined levels, then work orders can be
constructed that relate back to the hourly rate.
Answer: The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) aims to nominally
recover 40 per cent of the agency assessment fees from application fees, with the balance
coming from a levy based on product sales. This approach was agreed by the Signatories
Working Group (SWG) when the then National Registration Authority (now the APVMA)
was established in 1995.
A level 1 environmental assessment from the Department of Sustainability, Environment,
Water, Population and Communities costs APVMA $41 290, of which the application fee
covers 31 per cent ($12 605) of the cost. A level 2 environmental assessment costs APVMA
$13 606, of which the application fee covers 24 per cent ($3255) of the cost. A level
3 environmental assessment costs APVMA $2302, of which the application fee covers 27 per
cent ($620) of the cost.
The APVMA’s recently published Cost Recovery Impact Statement for 2013–15 includes
changes that will restore application fees to the 40 per cent recovery target.
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Question: 38
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division
/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Operating Costs
Proof Hansard page: 67
Senator COLBECK asked:
Senator COLBECK: Okay, so can you give me an idea of what three months of operating
costs sits at?
Mr de la Fosse: The three months operating financial reserve is $7 million.
Senator COLBECK: If you go back to page 198, could you confirm the numbers in the
2010 to current day column as to their currency. I suppose the other question around that is: is
there some form of rise, fall or adjustment process that is part of that agreement? The DoHA
one, for example, I think according to the information I have is the 2010-16 agreement—so it
is over a period of time. It would be reasonable to expect that there might be some adjustment
clauses within that particular section.
Mr Matthew: I will try and get that correction within the session now.
Answer: The ‘2010 to Current Day’ column was current.
The service level agreements between the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines
Authority (APVMA) and the agencies outline that each year the APVMA and the agency
‘
will review the Schedules and attachments and make any adjustments to those as agreed
between them’.
The agency service level agreements commenced in 2001-02 and there have been agreed
adjustments made each year. In relation to fee structures, in most cases the adjustments have
been upwards, however there has been one adjustment downwards.
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Question: 39
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Number of Environmental Assessment Charges
Proof Hansard page: 67
Senator COLBECK asked:
Senator COLBECK: But if they come up against a big job that does not fit within the
parameters of the agreement you have in place then there is capacity for them to say 'sorry we
cannot do that for the fee in that particular category. We need to do it on an hourly basis' or
some other form of agreed process?
Mr Matthew: Yes because if they do not accept to undertake the work order that we offer
them, there can be a process of discussion to see if it would more neatly fit under professional
services or some other mechanism.
Senator COLBECK: How often would that happen?
Mr Matthew: I am not sure of the number of times that has happened in recent times but it
does happen from time to time. I might have to take that on notice.
Answer: To date in 2012–13 there have been six instances and in 2011–12 there were two instances
where the work in question did not fit the parameters of the service level agreement.
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Question: 40
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division
/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Research on Pesticide Spray Drift
Proof Hansard page: 68
Senator EDWARDS asked:
Senator EDWARDS: The decision to implement mandatory buffer zones on pesticide
levels—has any work been done to assess whether that has been helpful in reducing spray-
drift issues?
Mr Koval: There is a group on spray drift, and APVMA looked at a couple of chemicals in
the products around. They are looking at the effectiveness of them. I am not aware of any
research done on that, but I am willing to take it on notice and have a look—
Senator EDWARDS: Yes, if you would not mind. It is a bit of an issue.
Answer:
The states and territories have been monitoring the effectiveness of mandatory buffer zones
on product labels since they were introduced in 2010.
New South Wales and Victoria reported a reduction in concerns raised about spray-drift
management, due to larger buffer zones and improved education, neighbour notification and
industry advice as well as better product stewardship information accompanying the
mandatory instructions.
In addition, some manufacturers are heavily promoting the ‘SprayWise Decisions’ program,
which provides useful information on planning for spraying and interpreting weather
conditions. More information is available at www.spraywisedecisions.com.au.
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Question: 41
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Antibiotics Report Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator DI NATALE asked:
Has the Authority completed the ‘Quantity of Antimicrobial Products Sold for Veterinary
Use in Australia” antibiotics report? What is the status of this Report and when is it due to be
released publicly?
Answer:
The report on the quantity of antimicrobial products sold for veterinary use in Australia from
2005-2010 (five financial years), has been drafted and is undergoing quality control checking,
including checking with companies that the data they provided was complete and accurate. It
is expected that the report will be ready for publication in coming months.
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Question: 42
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division
/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Banning of Fenthion; Change of label Directions and Reduced MRL
Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator BACK asked:
1. In recent years, the APVMA lifted the MRL on fenthion from 2mg/kg to 5mg/kg.
The MRL has now been set at the level at 0.2 mg/kg.
In response to questions as to why the acceptable level has been decreased so dramatically,
APVMA advised that the 5mg/kg MRL referred to long term dietary exposure to fenthion.
Did the APVMA conduct reviews on both long term and short term exposures at the same
time? If not, why not?
2. If APVMA only reviewed long term exposure and failed to consider short term exposure,
has APVMA potentially put young children in harm’s way?
3. If the APVMA ruled that 5mg/kg was a safe MRL, why did the APVMA see the need to
make such drastic cuts in the new MRL of 0.2mg/kg?
Answer:
1. The change in the fenthion Maximum Residue Level (MRL) from 2 mg/kg to 5 mg/kg
occurred over 15 years ago, in 1997. This was associated with an application from the
manufacturer of the product. At that time, the then National Registration Authority (now
the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority or APVMA) and the
National Food Authority (now Food Standards Australia New Zealand or FSANZ) did
not undertake short-term dietary exposure estimates as the methodology did not exist,
either in Australia or internationally. Therefore, the application to increase the MRL was
granted on the basis of a long-term dietary exposure assessment only.
Short-term exposure assessments commenced in Australia after 2000, after a policy
decision taken jointly by the Therapeutic Goods Administration within the Australian
Government Department of Health and Ageing (DoHA), FSANZ and the APVMA.
2. The 1997 application was granted on the basis of the best available science and
international best practice exposure assessment at the time. In hindsight, a risk to young
children existed but was not known.
3. The APVMA reduced the MRL on the basis of the acute reference dose (the short-term
dietary exposure standard) for fenthion set by the Office of Chemical Safety in DoHA.
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Question: 43
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division
/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Registration of AgVet Chemicals
Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator BACK asked:
1. How exactly does the current APVMA registration process contribute to the risk-based
national framework for managing the use of AgVet Chemicals promoted by the PSIC,
particularly in terms of its cost-effectiveness and utilisation of government and corporate
resources?
2. Approach to risk:
a) To what extent are specific risks being identified, prioritised and appropriately
managed in the registration process, OR is risk avoidance currently defaulting to a
bastardised form of the precautionary principle which requires registration
applicants to substantiate the absence of risk even when significant hazards or
adverse outcomes are unlikely, or can be reasonably expected to be negligible?
3. Robustness of responding to registration applications:
a) To what extent does the current review process and advice to, or requirements of,
registrants (particularly of failed applications) inform and contribute to appropriate
identification and management of risk, OR
b) Is there a failure within the agency to properly identify and communicate the
significant risks related to a particular product application, OR (as an extension of
that)
c) Despite the time taken for an application to be considered, why is there not some
advice routinely supplied to an applicant which would enable them to address
particular issues of risk, including for products which are approved.
4. To what extent does the inflexibility of (the application of) MORAG and other parts of
the registration system inhibit the registration of innovative, low-risk products or
changed label directions which would enhance animal health and welfare in Australia?
5. To what extent does the difficulty of registering veterinary chemicals in Australia,
particularly those known to be effective and widely used elsewhere, contribute to risk by
encouraging inappropriate and illegal off-label use of both registered and unregistered
chemicals (such as Ag versions of the active) and/or the continued use of already
registered but less effective or higher risk alternatives?
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Question: 43 (continued)
Answer: 1. The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) registers
agricultural chemical and veterinary medicine (agvet chemical) products and establishes
label instructions. State and territory regulators refer to label instructions in enforcing
proposer use. APVMA regularly consults with partner agencies, including health and
environment, as part of the registration process to ensure ongoing cost-effectiveness and
appropriate use of government and corporate resources.
2. The APVMA’s risk assessment takes into account the known hazards and the likely
points of exposure and determines the appropriate level of risk management that needs to
be applied for safe use of the product. A key component of the government’s agvet
chemical reforms is the development of a comprehensive risk compendium (which will
be published progressively by the APVMA) that explains how the APVMA applies the
suite of agvet legislation, its policies and its decision-making processes. The primary risk
management mechanism is via the approved label instructions, but the statutory
arrangements provide for other controls, such as restricting use to specifically trained
personnel where that is necessary and appropriate to manage specific identified risks.
The flexibility of APVMA’s risk assessment process to deal with less risky substances,
as well as the changes from the Australian Government’s proposed agvet chemical
reforms to ensure the APVMA matches regulatory effort with risk, is addressed in
Question 4.
The APVMA does not require applicants to substantiate the absence of risk. There is an
inherent level of risk with any use of a chemical. The scheme is built around the
management of risk. Where risks cannot be managed and there is a likelihood of undue
harm occurring, the APVMA’s legislation requires that the APVMA must not grant the
application for registration.
3.
a) Registrants are required to provide to the APVMA information on the hazards and likely
exposures relating to the chemical product proposed for registration. The APVMA can
then assess the chemical product’s risks and consider their management.
Where applications are refused because the APVMA is not satisfied, the applicant is
provided with the reasons for the decision. This assists them to determine whether or not
to proceed with the proposal and re-submit another application. The APVMA also makes
itself available to provide advice as to what sorts of information it would need to
undertake a risk assessment if that is necessary.
b) No. See response to part a) above.
c) During the assessment of an application, the APVMA advises the applicant as soon as
possible if areas are identified where the APVMA is not satisfied of the relevant statutory
criteria.
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4. The APVMA’s Manual of Requirements and Guidelines (MORAG) provides applicants
with a guide of the information required for a risk assessment. Applicants may provide
other types of information to allow the APVMA to fully understand the hazards and risks
of the proposal.
The APVMA can also tailor assessments to only consider sufficient minimum factors to
satisfy the APVMA that safety and efficacy statutory criteria are met. These are referred
to as modular assessments and allow the assessment effort to be aligned with the risks
associated with the proposal in the application. These arrangements apply to all
applications for chemicals, including innovative low risk products. The APVMA can
also assess applications for access permits for uses of chemicals in unique and
emergency situations, as well as for research and innovation purposes.
The government’s proposed agvet chemical reforms will also ensure the APVMA
matches regulatory effort with risk. Optional consideration may be given to certain
matters. For example, subsections 5B(3) and 5C(3) provide for efficacy and trade criteria
to be considered only to the extent relevant to the particular assessment being undertaken
by APVMA. Different registration pathways may be provided for chemicals with
different risk profiles, such as streamlining the process for registration for products of
lower regulatory concern through amendments relating to listed chemical products.
Regulatory effort (by the APVMA and its regulatory partners) and the burden imposed
(on applicants and registrants) will be balanced with the risks to health and safety. The
APVMA will be required to determine the scale of an assessment appropriate to the
application or reconsideration before it.
5. Australian registration of veterinary chemicals used overseas is relatively straightforward
where it is supported by sound scientific information. The APVMA permit process
allows access to unregistered uses. While the APVMA administers its legislation so that
it minimises the risk of encouraging inappropriate and illegal off-label use of registered
and unregistered chemicals, the government recognises that the legislation does not
operate as effectively as it can. This is why the government has introduced reforms to the
APVMA’s legislation, which will among other things address the perceived difficulty of
registering veterinary chemicals in Australia.
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Question: 44
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division
/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Support for Goat Industry
Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator BACK asked: Although the goat industry pays levies to MLA, Animal Health Australia and the National
Residue Survey, it is deemed too small for investment in animal health products. The industry
exports 30,000 tonnes of goat meat annually, and exports 85,000 goats. The industry is crying
out for investment, so what can the APVMA do to aid the industry, what guidance can it give,
and can it work with the industry and Australian Veterinary Association to administer
chemicals through minor use permits?
Answer: Legislation allows the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA)
to issue permits in three situations: minor use; emergency use; and for the purposes of
research. Minor use means a use of a product that would not produce sufficient economic
return to an applicant to meet the costs associated with registering the product. Emergency
use relates to emergencies such as the incursion of exotic pests and diseases.
The current size of the goat industry means that for more common uses the APVMA can be
prevented from issuing minor use permits because the use of the chemical would generate
significant revenue, thus conflicting with the minor use definition.
The metabolism of the goat is substantially different to other comparable species, such as
sheep and cattle, and therefore it is not possible to extrapolate from this use of products to a
proposed use on goats. This necessitates the submission of goat-specific information in order
to undertake the required risk assessments.
Where urgent circumstances arise that require animal treatment, for example to alleviate
suffering, veterinarians may be able to use their prescribing rights which allows ‘off-label’
use of registered products.
The APVMA is open to discussing with the goat industry whether particular circumstances of
use would be considered ‘minor use’ and to outline the information that would be necessary
to inform its risk assessment.
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Question: 45
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Cephalosporins Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator DI NATALE asked:
1.
Are any cephalosporins being used now in animals? Either food animals or companion
animals? If so what are they? Has there been a change in categorising of drugs as 3rd or
4th generation at any time during the past 5 years? If so please provide details as to
what these changes were and why the change was made.
2.
What is the difference in terms of risk to human medicine between the various
generations of cephalosporins?
Answer:
1.
Yes, cephalosporins are registered for use in animals. These are
1st generation
Cephalexin
Dogs; cats
Cephapirin
Dairy cattle (intrauterine – endometritis)
Cephalonium Dairy cattle (dry cow intramammary – mastitis)
2nd generation Cefuroxime
Dairy cattle (intramammary – mastitis)
3rd generation
Ceftiofur
Cattle & horses (respiratory infections); dogs (urinary infections)
Cefovecin
Dogs and cats (wounds and abscesses, and skin and urinary tract
infections)
The Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority (APVMA) is not aware
of a change in categorising drugs as 3rd or 4th generation in the past five years.
2.
Generations of cephalosporins differ in their structure and antimicrobial properties. The
exact categorisation can vary depending on which authority is used. As a general rule,
each newer generation of cephalosporin is more effective against Gram-negative
infections and less effective against Gram-positive infections, although 4th-generation
cephalosporins tend to be broad-spectrum. Third- and 4th-generation cephalosporins
are regarded as of critical importance in treating several serious human infections. The
APVMA manages these risks by undertaking rigorous and comprehensive risk
assessment on all new antimicrobials for use in animals, major extensions of use of
existing antimicrobials and reviews of currently registered antimicrobials.
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Question: 46
Division/Agency: Agricultural Productivity Division/Australian Pesticides and Veterinary
Medicines Authority
Topic: Chemicals Proof Hansard page: Written
Senator HEFFERNAN asked: In response to the APVMA Answers to the October 2012 Senate Estimates Questions:
1. When does a mixture or concoction of chemicals become a Chemical Product that
requires APVMA Approvals and Registrations?
2. If a Tank Mixture has been given a name and has its very own MSDS identifying the
constituents of the product and defining it a risk assessment rating such as a Poison
Schedule, such as Gloricide; when does that Formula become recognised as an
Agricultural Chemical Product under Australian Law?
3. If as you claim that a range of herbicides on Permit 11463 can be mixed together as a new
formula/product and used under that Permit, at what point do you draw the line? Is it
acceptable to allow the rest of Australia to operate under the Permit System and create
random super poisonous concoctions that can be used without restraint, due to the lack of
conditions the APVMA has imposed on specific Product Labels/Permits and the culture
of advice the APVMA provides Industry, Local Government, State Governments,
Budget Senate Estimate Committee's etc
4. Is it true that if a private company wanted to develop a new product such as Gloricide
and commercialise its use under a trade name and individualised MSDS, it could bypass
APVMA Product Registration Fees, Permit System, Product Testing Requirements,
WH&S, Environmental Duty of Care?
5. Would if be fair for a Private Company to develop a new Chemical Formula/Product that
depends on operators mixing up S5 and S6 products and inform the workers in the MSDS
that they are using a 'Non-Hazardous Product' and because it is diluted it is safe to use
and does not warrant any protective equipment, even with estrogen mimicking substances
such as 2,4-D and Gloricide?
6. Is the APVMA aware of the WH&S Rating of Gloricide established in the MSDS for the
product and do you agree that workers are fully informed of the dangers to themselves,
the Community and the Environment?
7. Does the APVMA think it appropriate that they have allowed Products such as 2,4-D
and Metsulfuron methyl to be re-registered and Labels re-approved by the APVMA in
return for money, if the product MSDS/Label does not contain one empirical direction as
to where you can use the products?
8. The APVMA is more than aware of the risks of using Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron
methyl, as per the restrictions on Permit 10540. Why has the APVMA not provided one
direction on Amicide or Metsulfuron Labels that regulates the risks the APVMA has
established, surely a minimum setback distance is necessary or some empirical guidance
or restrictions?
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Question: 46 (continued)
9. The APVMA claim in Response to the October Questions, that the UNEP is not
responsible for implementing the Rotterdam Convention due to Australia not being a
signatory to the Enforcement component of the Convention, who is responsible for
Australia's Compliance with the Rotterdam Convention and is this a priority?
10. Is it true that 2,4-D product can be used as precursor products for 2,4,5-T aka Agent
Orange, under variable conditions and the mixing of perhaps hundreds of different
chemicals never tested in combination with earth other?
11. Is it true that Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl are being used in and around
Aquatic Areas, as defined by Schedule 3A, Part 3, Ag Vet Chemical Code Regs 1995 by
the SCRC and private contractors for hire?
12. Is it true that Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl are being used in and
around Critical Habitat for Endangered Acid Frogs etc by the SCRC?
13. How much area of land has been treated with Gloricide and how many times per year are
Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl being applied to these sandy soils and
wetlands?
14. Is it true that Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl are being used right up to the edge
of the vegetation on the coastal foredune and up to and over the edge of Coastal Steams
as per the Utube Videos on the 'dontpoisonmeplease' channel?
15. In this situation; Coastal Foreshores, Wetlands, Sandy Soils, Endangered Acid Frogs,
high rainfall, perched water tables, what setbacks should the APVMA require for each of
the Products to meet their respective Label Conditions?
16. The products Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl are claiming by SCRC,
Queensland Government, OCO to be using within the Label and Permit Instructions.
Does the APVMA CEO agree that the Gloricide Program is fully compliant with relevant
Australian Laws including Chemical Regulation, WH&S, Environmental Protection etc?
17. Considering the presence of perhaps some of the most sensitive Endangered Species on
our planet, Acid Frogs; did the APVMA consider this when you approved the Gloricide
program to continue in May Budget Senate Estimates and in correspondence to a wide
range of organisations and Regulators?
18. It is the case that the Office of the Commonwealth Ombudsman, Office of the
Queensland Ombudsman, Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission, etc have
refused to undertake an investigation into the very serious allegations levelled at the
APVMA regarding the use of Unregistered Agricultural Chemical Products and using
Registered Agricultural Chemical Products against their Label and Permit Advice?
19. Is it true that the APVMA CEO has refused to provide a Statement of Reasons to Adam
Presnell, Director of ATP Environmental pty ltd, regarding the CEO's decision to allow
Gloricide to continue illegally, thus benefit corrupt contractors prepared to risk the lives
of their staff on deliberate misinformation? If so can you justify why the APVMA is
refusing to clarify and demonstrate the decision of the APVMA CEO to allow Gloricide
to continue despite not using a Registered Chemical Product, despite all constituent
product not registered for use in or around Aquatic Areas, despite the explicit Permit
Conditions regarding use in and around Aquatic Areas, despite the application of
multiple, selective hormonal herbicide concoctions to Endangered Acid Frogs etc?
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Question: 46 (continued)
20. Is it true that Formal Complaints concerning the conduct of the CEO of the
APVMA, regarding the provision of deliberately False and Misleading Information
etc, were lodged with DAFF, Minister Ludwig and the PM? The Minister and the PM
have failed to investigate and respond to the matter as have the OCO. Has the APVMA
and the Gillard Government undertaken due legal process to concerns raised by Adam
Presnell if no one is or has investigating the matter independently at a Local, State or
Federal Level?
21. Being that the responsible Ministers have failed in their duties to investigate a CEO of a
Chief Government Regulator and considering the $500 000 price tag of a prosecution
against the APVMA by a small private company that has been sent broke because they
refused to use these products illegally; is it appropriate the complaint be openly
and transparently examined and for various decisions by the APVMA CEO to be
explained both to the Parliament, the Queensland Government and to the Complainant?
22. Is it true the Federal Government is claiming it is a State Issue and the State Government
is calling it a Federal Issue and Local Government Issue and that not one investigation by
an independent authority has being undertaken?
23. If the APVMA is the regulator of Chemical in Australia, is it proper that the APVMA at
least attempt to regulate the control and use of Chemicals in Australia by providing more
honest information in the Labels and MSDS with some empirical data?
24. South Australian EDO Solicitor Ms Ballantyne claims: “There is currently a 100m buffer
zone for all 2,4-D products, whereby a buffer zone of 100 metres must be maintained
between field edges and downwind water bodies and native vegetation. Is this buffer zone
applicable to South Australia or all of Australia?” Can you confirm or deny this claim, do
you know who prepared this regulation/policy and when?
25. Did the APVMA mislead the Parliament in October when you claimed their are no
standards on the Label thus none exist
26. If the APVMA was aware the Gloricide, 2,4-D and Metsulfuron methyl are being used
contrary to the Permit Conditions, why has the APVMA condoned and defended this
highly risky research without a valid Permit?
27. The Manufactures of Amicide and Brushoff claim that their Products are not registered or
approved for use in or around aquatic areas with very serious disclosures including:
Amicide: PROTECTION OF WILDLIFE, FISH, CRUSTACEA AND
ENVIRONMENT: DO NOT contaminate streams, rivers or waterways with the chemical
or used container. Brushoff: Toxic to aquatic organisms may cause long term effects in
the aquatic environment. Does it claim anywhere on Permit 11463 that either 2,4-D or
Metsulfuron methyl can be used in and/or around Permit Areas?
28. Is it true that the SCRC, BQ, WH&SQ, DERM, OQO, CMC etc are allowing the
Gloricide Program to continue due to correspondence you have issued claiming that the
APVMA is not investigating the matter or has investigated the matter and officially
endorsed the Gloricide Program.
29. Is it true that SCRC claim or have claimed that the Gloricide Program is operating partly
under a Research Permit and partly under a Minor Use Permit? If this is the case would
this concern you that neither Permit adequately covers the legitimacy of the work.
30. Is it true that the Queensland Government has delegated regulating the use of chemicals
and management of endangered species entirely to SCRC?
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Question: 46 (continued)
31. Does the SCRC, as proud Designers, Suppliers and Users of Unregistered Chemical
Products, have a Chemical Engineer or appropriately qualified WH&S Expert in its staff
to manage the risks?
32. With regards to the APVMA previous response to questions at the October 2012 meeting,
Queensland State Control of Use Legislation the Chemical Usage Act 1988, Section 11A
states 'a person must not make a claim about the use of an unregistered chemical' unless
'the use of the unregistered chemical (such as Gloricide) is authorised by a Permit. For the
life of me i can not find and thing on Permit 11463 that claims that the Permit can be
interpreted as allowing use of mixes of registered products. Where in Permit 11463 does
it allow random concoctions to be used?
33. How does the use of Gloricide under Permit 11463 differ from the risks of using a
Gloricide type product under Permit 10540?
Answer:
1. A mixture of chemicals requires Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines
Authority (APVMA) approval or registration when it meets the following definition of
an agricultural chemical product, as described in the Agricultural and Veterinary
Chemicals Code Act 1994, section 4. This states that ‘an agricultural chemical product is
a substance or mixture of substances that is represented, imported, manufactured,
supplied or used as a means of directly or indirectly:
1. Destroying, stupefying repelling, inhibiting the feeding of, or preventing infestation
by or attacks of, any pest in relation to a plant, a place or thing; or
2. Destroying a plant; or
3. Modifying the physiology of a plant or pest so as to alter its natural development,
productivity, quality or reproductive capacity; or
4. Modifying the effect of another chemical product; or
5. Attracting a pest for the purpose of destroying it.’
2. A mixture of chemicals is considered an agricultural chemical product when it meets the
definition provided in part 1. above. A tank mix of registered chemical products is not
itself another chemical product. The making of a tank mix is not an offence under state
control of use legislation, unless product labels specifically prohibit mixing of one
product with another.
3. Permit PER 11463 was issued to allow a range of registered products to be used to
control environmental weeds in a range of situations, such as bushland, forests, wetlands,
coastal areas and non-agricultural areas for which there are no registered alternatives.
This permit allows use of products in situations where the use would otherwise be an
offence under the control-of-use legislation in the jurisdiction for which the permit is
issued, i.e. Queensland. Following an assessment of the proposed use the APVMA was
satisfied that the products could be used safely and issued a permit with specific
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conditions for use. Mixing of registered products in a tank mix is not an offence under
Queensland control-of-use legislation, therefore the permit is not needed for that specific
purpose.
The APVMA would need to issue a different permit to allow the uses specified in
permit PER 11463 in other jurisdictions.
4. No. To be able to legally commercialise a chemical product under a tradename with
specific pesticidal claims, it would first require assessment and registration in accordance
with the requirements stated in the Agvet Code.
5. If a new chemical product was developed and legally commercialised, it would have to
have been assessed by the APVMA for worker exposure and safety, among other things,
as indicated in the response to part 4 above. Part of the assessment and registration
process includes the setting of label instructions, such as safety directions, appropriate
warning statements and for appropriate protective equipment to be worn during specific
operations when using the product. The product label must be read and label instructions
followed when using any pesticide product in Australia.
6. ‘Gloricide’ is not a registered chemical product. The department understands that it is a
name used by some people to refer to a tank mix of registered chemical products
approved for certain uses in Queensland under a permit. The MSDS in question was
prepared to satisfy the relevant state WorkSafe authority. As such, it is inappropriate for
the APVMA to provide specific comment.
7. Approved labels for registered products must contain adequate instructions for use as
described in section 14 of the Agvet Code. Products of 2, 4-D and metsulfuron-methyl
carry adequate instructions for use. If valid concerns regarding use of a product or
chemical are raised, then the product and its label directions may be the focus of a
targeted review to address the concerns raised.
Under current legislation, there isn’t a program to ‘re-register’ or ‘re-approve’ chemicals
on a regular basis.
8. The permit (PER 10540) clearly states that the products included in the permit must be
used in accordance with label directions. The wording in the permit is reproduced below:
‘THIS PERMIT provides for the use of a product in a manner other than specified on the
approved label of the product. Unless otherwise stated in this permit, the use of the
product must be in accordance with instructions on its label.’
Permit PER 10540 includes an instruction, for observing a 20 metre buffer around
waterways when using certain glyphosate products.
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9. The response to question 230 from Supplementary Budget Estimates October 2012 did
not indicate that Australia is not a signatory to the enforcement component of the
Rotterdam Convention on the Prior Informed Consent Procedure for Certain Hazardous
Chemicals and Pesticides in International Trade. Within Australia, the lead government
agency responsible for the convention is the Australian Government Department of
Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities (DSEWPaC). The
Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry (DAFF) and the APVMA assist
DSEWPaC to meet the government’s obligations under the convention in regards to
pesticides.
10. Yes. However, to form 2,4,5-T from 2,4-D the conditions would have to achieve addition
of a chlorine atom to the 2,4-D molecule, which is highly unlikely except under
specialised laboratory conditions.
11. In Queensland, The Queensland Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry
(QDAFF) is responsible for ensuring use of products in accordance with the conditions
of use stated in the permit instructions.
12. The relevant state authority (Qld DAFF) is responsible for the enforcement of the permit
conditions, label conditions and restrictions, as they relate to use of the products.
13. The Australian Government does not record this type of information.
14. Please see the response to question 12.
15. Any restrictions, e.g. ‘setbacks’, stated on the product label also apply to use under the
permit, unless additional restrictions are stated in the permit. Please see response to
question 8 above. Permits issued for use of registered products, specifically require those
products to be used according to label instructions and restrictions.
16. Please see the response to question 12.
17. The uses allowed in permit PER10540 have been approved for a number of years and to
date the APVMA has not received specific complaints through the adverse experience
reporting program regarding adverse impacts to amphibians.
18. This is a matter for the offices listed in the question.
19. Yes. Mr Presnell does not have standing to request a statement of reasons for permit
PER 11463 under the
Administrative Decisions (Judicial Review) Act 1977. Mr Presnell
was informed of the finding by letter dated 7 November 2012.
20. Mr Presnell made numerous complaints in 2012, through widely distributed emails,
regarding the APVMA’s CEO actions in relation to ‘Gloricide’. DAFF and the APVMA
have responded to Mr Presnell’s complaints according to their responsibilities.
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21. See the response to question 20.
22. No. The APVMA conducted a compliance audit and found no breach of its requirements
by the permit holder. Please also see the response to question 12 above.
23. It is proper for the APVMA to regulate to the extent of its jurisdiction. The APVMA is
responsible for the regulation of labels and approves them based on as assessment of data
required for registration purposes. Material Safety Data Sheets are managed between
Safework Australia and the relevant state WorkSafe authority.
24. The high volatile esters of the herbicide 2,4-D have been suspended since October 2006.
The current instructions as included in permit PER 13339 require 100m buffer zones and
this applies to users in all jurisdictions.
25. No. The various questions posed in question on notice 231 from October 2012 and the
respective responses do not make mention of ‘
standards on labels’.
26. If the conditions of use under the permit have been breached, that is a matter for the
relevant state Control-of-Use authority to investigate.
27. The permit has conditions in relation to the use of product formulations in aquatic
situations, which include:
“Only those specific products which have label approvals currently in place for aquatic
use, may be used in or near aquatic areas”
28. Please see the responses to questions 12 and 22.
29. It is not appropriate for the APVMA to comment on matters relating to the SCRC claims.
There are two permits that are current, PER 10540 and PER 11463. Both are held by
Biosecurity Queensland (now QDAFF) and both are issued as minor use permits.
30. Please see the response to question 12.
31. The APVMA has no knowledge of the expertise of the SCRC staff.
32. The permit allows something that is otherwise an offence under state control of use
legislation. The making of a tank mix is not an offence under state control of use
legislation, unless product labels specifically prohibit mixing of one product with
another. Where there is no label prohibition, the permit does not need to include tank
mixing instructions.
33. This ‘tank mix’ of 2,4 D and metsulfuron that is referred to in permit PER 10540
specifies use with specific concentrations of chemicals, whereas the mix of above
chemicals in permit PER 11463 is dependent on the specific use pattern. The risks under
either permit are assessed as acceptable
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