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Attachment A
Ref: FOI 2016/17-59 
Mr Richard Smith 
By email: [FOI #3261 email] 
Dear Mr Smith 
FOI request consultation 
We refer to your request of 19 March 2017 for access under the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (FOI 
Act) to, 
a) Documents relating to the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture's consideration and
decision to apply for ongoing access to Telecommunications Data as per the 
b) The date of each Application made by Commonwealth Department of Agriculture for access to
ACT 1979; 
c) Documents relating to how Commonwealth Department of Agriculture deals with the privacy
of data obtained through access to ongoing access to Telecommunications Data as per 
received is obtained, assessed, stored and ultimately destroyed; 
d) The number of documents containing data obtained by the Commonwealth Department of
Agriculture through its ongoing access to Telecommunication Data; and 
e) The number of documents containing data obtained by the Commonwealth Department of
Agriculture through its ongoing access to Telecommunication Data that Council has determined 
are not likely to be required for a permitted purpose and therefore has destroyed, for the period 
of time from since the commencement of ongoing access to the data was granted until 17th 
March 2017. 
Under s 24AA(1)(a)(b) a practical refusal exists where a request does not satisfy the requirements of  
s 15(2)(b) of the FOI Act to provide sufficient information concerning the documents reasonably 
necessary for the agency to identify them. As worded, the decision-maker considers your request does 
not satisfy the requirements of s 15(2)(b). 
The wording in parts a) and c) for ‘Documents relating to…’ does not provide sufficient clarity about 
the documents you are seeking. Where your request refers to ‘The date of each Application….’ In part 
b), it is not clear whether you are seeking a list of date information on its own or to include 
information about any such requests. Where your request refers to ‘The number of documents ….’ in 
parts d) and e) it is not clear whether you are requesting the documents that contain the specified 
information or a document summarising a count of the number of such documents.  Without a 
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specified date range it is unclear what period of time your request is intended to cover. Further, you 
will need to clarify which body you are referring to in referring to ‘that Council’ in part e) of your 
Without clarification there is insufficient information to enable the department to identify the 
documents. Unless this scope issue is resolved, the decision maker intends to refuse your request. 
However, you have an opportunity to revise your request to address the practical refusal reason 
before a final decision is made. This is called a ‘request consultation process’ as set out under section 
24AB of the FOI Act. 
Consultation process 
You have 14 days, from the receipt of this notice, to consult with the department concerning your 
Under sub-section 24AB(6) of the FOI Act, you are required within the 14 day period to: 
•  withdraw the request 
•  make a revised request; or 
•  indicate that you do not wish to revise the request. 
If you do not consult with the department or do one of these things within the next 14 days, your 
request will be taken to have been withdrawn. Even with consultation, if the scope of your request 
cannot be sufficiently revised to provide clarity and be processed without requiring a substantial and 
unreasonable diversion of departmental resources from its other operations, the request may be 
refused. You should also be aware that the right of access to documents in the FOI Act is to existing 
documents and only requires agencies to produce documents in limited circumstances. 
Please note the time period for making a decision in response to your request is suspended until the 
conclusion of the consultation process described in this letter. 
Contact details 
Should you wish to discuss any issues arising from this letter, please contact the department by email 
to [Department of Agriculture and Water Resources request email]. 
Yours sincerely 
[by email] 
Charine Bennett 
Principal Government Lawyer 
Office of the General Counsel 
24 March 2017 


Attachment B
Richard Smith
Re: Your FOI request - Section 24AB Notice - FOI2016/17-59 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Wednesday, 29 March 2017 7:12:12 PM
Dear Ms Nolte-Crimp,
RE: FOI 2016/17-59
Thank you for your response of 24 March 2017 regarding my recent request for Government Information under
 the Freedom of Information Act 1982.
I do not agree with the decision-maker’s proposition in your letter that my FOI request of 19 March 2017 did
 not provide sufficient information for a responsible officer of the Department to identify the document(s) I am
 requesting be released.
I will address each part of my request in turn, with respect to the requirements of s15(2)(b) of the Act, below:
My request in a) is very specific. This request is in 2 parts and specifically asks for:
the document(s) where Department’s executive decision making organ, for example what is commonly
 referred to as the “Senior Management Team” or “Executive Leadership Team”, discussed applying for access
 to Telecommunication Data prior to access being first granted. These documents would usually take the form
 of meeting minutes where the issue is discussed, and considered. It could also be a discussion paper or briefing
 note/minute where the issue is described and a recommendation is made; and
the document(s) showing when the Department’s executive decision making organ made the decision.
 Again this would normally be expected to be meeting minutes where the result of the decision is described and
 the resulting actions are listed such as drafting a letter to the Attorney-General requesting access to
 Telecommunications Data.
My request as made does indeed therefore satisfy section s15(2)(b) of the Act in that it does “provide such
 information concerning the document as is reasonably necessary to enable a responsible officer of the agency,
 or the Minister, to identify it”.
It would be a reasonable assumption that the officer responsible for discharging the Freedom of Information
 function of the Department would be able to identify the minutes or briefing paper relating to the departmental
 decision making in which the Department decides to request sensitive information under an additional power
 under Telecommunications Interception legislation.
My request in b) is also very specific. This request specifically asks for a list of every date that the Department
 of Agriculture and Water Resources requested access to Telecommunications Data.
Again I take the view that it is a reasonable assumption that the officer responsible for discharging the Freedom
 of Information function of the Department would be able to easily identify and collate the dates of official
 communications with the Attorney-General requesting access to sensitive Telecommunication Data.
The antithesis of this situation would be to suggest that Departmental requests for access to Telecommunication
 Data from the Attorney-General happen so frequently and at such an informal level that it is hard to identify
 such requests. I do not think it is reasonable to assume this state of affairs exists.
My request in d) is a specific request to collate the number of documents obtained through access to
 Telecommunication Data and provide me with a document listing the final sum. It is a reasonable assumption
 that the Department has sufficient record keeping of sensitive data that this exercise should be a trivial one.
Following that, my request in e) is a specific request to collate the number of documents that have been
 destroyed, having been originally obtained through access to Telecommunication Data and provide me with a
 document listing the final sum of documents destroyed. Again the Department’s record keeping should allow a
 quick summation of this information.

The timeframe relating to my requests d) and e) follows logically to be from the date of the granting of the
 Department’s initial request as identified in a) up to and including the 19 March 2017.
I do acknowledge that I have made a typing error in e) which you have identified in your correspondence.
 Accordingly, please substitute “that the Department” for the words “that Council” to correct this minor error.
In summary, my FOI requests a) through e) go to the Department’s handling of very sensitive information and
 thus the standard of record keeping should be commensurate with the sensitivity of the information. Accessing
 and reporting on this information should therefore not require substantial and unreasonable diversion of
 departmental resources.
Considering that I have illustrated above that all parts of my request, as they were made and without
 modification, are for specific Government Information that it can be reasonably assumed can be readily
 identified, I am of the opinion that a practical refusal reason does not exist under s24AA(1)(a)(b) of the Act.
It follows then that s24AB of the Act does not yet apply to this request and I therefore expect my request of 19
 March 2017 for Government Information to be actioned by the Department of Agriculture & Water Resources,
 according to the initial timeframe applying to my request. i.e. I am expecting a reply within 30 days of 19
 March 2017.
If this is not the case, considering the public interest importance of this information, I would be amenable for
 the Department to request an extension to supplying information via a request under s15AA of the Act.
I await your response
Yours sincerely,
Richard Smith
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 Marianne Nolte-Crimp
 Government Lawyer |  Freedom of Information and Privacy Team, Office of
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 Department of Agriculture and Water Resources [2]
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