This is an HTML version of an attachment to the Freedom of Information request 'Documents and cost of Internal investigation (2017 -2018) of convicted paedophile ex-ABC producer - Jon Stephens.'.


 
11 February 2021 
Michael Sudding 
By email: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx 
 
Dear Mr Sudding  
DECISION – FOI REQUEST REF. NO. 2021-036  
I refer to your email sent 11 November 2021 requesting access under the Freedom of 
Information Act 1982
 (the FOI Act) to: 
… ABC management conducted an internal investigation into ex-ABC producer Jon 
Stephens. He was jailed in 2017 for child sexual abuse. ABC hired lawyers and spent an 
entire year researching. Michelle Guthrie informed Senator Abetz at Senate estimates 
that they were interviewing nine ex-employees and others. 
Could you please provide all documents and costings related to this investigation.  
A decision on your request was due by 13 December 2021. 
On 9 December 2021, we notified you by email that the timeframe for processing 
your request was extended for the purposes of consultation under s 27 of the FOI 
Act. Accordingly, a decision on your request was due on Wednesday, 12 January 
2021

On 23 December 2021, we sought your consent to extend time under s 15AA due to 
January leave for staff members, and external counsel with whom we were 
consulting. On 6 January 2022, you consented to this extension of time. Accordingly, 
a decision on your request is due on Friday, 11 February 2022
Authorisation 
I am authorised by the Managing Director of the ABC to make decisions about FOI 
requests, under section 23 of the FOI Act. 
Locating and identifying documents 
I am satisfied that all reasonable steps were taken to identify and locate all relevant 
documents that answer your request. The search for documents included 
approaching Legal, People & Culture and Archives areas of the ABC. 
In order to make the processing of your request more manageable, I have excluded 
documents that are exact duplicates of other documents I have included. Where 
practicable I have also excluded discrete parts of email chains that are otherwise 
included. This means that I have made a decision on every document relevant to your 
request, but only one copy of every document.   
Legal   ABC Ultimo Centre, 700 Harris Street, Ultimo NSW 2007 
GPO Box 9994 Sydney NSW 2001 | Email: xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xx  
 
 
 

Interpretation of scope 
On 31 January 2022, we advised you by email that we had interpreted the scope of 
your request to include documents which relate in a substantive way to the 
investigation and invoices received from external counsel for work that related to 
the investigation. We proposed to set to one side non-substantive documents that 
are only peripherally connected to matters of administrative process as irrelevant.  
We proposed to exclude the following categories of documents: 
  emails making practical arrangements for interviewees to attend interviews 
with the investigator, such as scheduling and room bookings 
  emails recording administrative steps taken to obtain access to relevant ABC 
files for the investigation, such as requests to retrieve documents from 
archives or obtain technical support to access electronic files 
  emails relating to the budget and cost estimates for the investigation by 
external counsel (noting that all final invoices from external counsel are 
included within scope). 
To date, we have not received a response to this proposed approach and have 
proceeded to process your request on this basis. 
Material taken into account 
In making my decision I have considered: 
  the scope of your request  
  the content of the documents requested 
  the FOI Act 
  the guidelines issued by the Office of the Australian Information 
Commissioner under section 93A of the FOI Act (the Guidelines
  relevant case law  
  responses to consultation undertaken with third parties.  
Decision 
I have identified 48 documents that answer the scope of your request. These 
documents are described in Schedule 1, which is attached to my decision. 
I have granted access to 2 documents in full, 24 documents in part and refused 
access to 22 documents in full.  
My reasons for refusal of access are provided below. 
Reasons for decision 
Section 22(1)(a)(ii) – Irrelevant information  
Section 22(1)(a)(ii) provides that information in a document that is irrelevant to the 
scope of a request can be redacted. 
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Section 22 has been applied in circumstances where I have decided that to give 
access to a document would disclose information that would reasonably be 
regarded as irrelevant to the request for access.  Documents that have been partly 
redacted under s22 are noted in Schedule 1.  
Section 42 – Legal professional privilege 
Section 42(1) exempts a document if it is of such a nature that it would be privileged 
from production in legal proceedings on the ground of legal professional privilege. 
The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner FOI Guidelines (the 
Guidelines) provide at paragraph 5.129, that determining whether a communication 
is privileged requires a consideration of:  
a)  whether there is a legal adviser-client relationship; 
b)  whether the communication was for the purpose of giving or receiving legal 
advice, or use in connection with actual or anticipated litigation; 
c)  whether the advice given is independent; and 
d)  the advice given is confidential. 
I find that disclosure of the documents exempted under s 42(1) would involve 
disclosure of documents that would be exempt from production in legal proceedings 
on the ground of legal professional privilege.  
In this matter, external counsel was retained for the purpose of conducting the 
investigation and preparing advice in relation to that investigation, in the broader 
context of advising the ABC in connection with its legal obligations and position. 
External counsel is admitted to practice as a legal practitioner and is independently 
employed as a barrister at the NSW Bar. I am satisfied that external counsel provided 
independent legal advice and that a lawyer-client relationship existed between the 
ABC officers and external counsel. 
The advice was given on the understanding that the usual and well-established 
relationship of confidence between a legal advisor and a client governed the 
communication. That is apparent from the face of the investigation report, as well as 
the communications passing between the ABC and the lawyer in the course of the 
investigation. 
Accordingly, I am satisfied that the documents are exempt under 42(1). The 
communications were at the time and remain confidential. I am further satisfied that 
there has been no waiver of legal professional privilege. 
Where communications between external counsel and ABC officers were not for the 
purpose of giving or receiving legal advice, or use in connection with actual or 
anticipated litigation, I have released that information. 
Section 47E(c) – substantial adverse effect on the management of personnel 
Section 47E(c) of the FOI Act conditionally exempts documents containing 
information the disclosure of which would, or could reasonably be expected to, have 
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a substantial adverse effect on the management or assessment of personnel by the 
Commonwealth or by an agency.  
Management of personnel 
Paragraph 6.114 of the Guidelines provides that for section 47E(c) to apply, the 
documents must relate to the management of personnel – which is defined to 
include the broader human resources policies and activities, recruitment, promotion, 
compensation, discipline, harassment and occupational health and safety. The main 
object of work health and safety legislation is to protect workers and other persons 
against harm to their health, safety and welfare through elimination or minimisation 
of risks arising from work. 
The information the documents exempted under s 47E(c) comprises the names and 
contact details of ABC staff, in the context of their involvement in assisting external 
counsel in the course of their investigation, below the level of General Counsel.  
Names, email addresses and contact details of staff 
In determining that staff names, contact details and direct phone lines are 
conditionally exempt under section 47E(c), I have considered the guidance in the 
Australian Information Commissioner’s policy document: Disclosure of public 
servants’ name and contact details in response to FOI requests
 (my emphasis): 
In certain circumstances, the management of staff and the discharge of the Australian 
Government’s legal responsibility to ensure the health and safety of its staff may be 
substantially and adversely affected if public servants’ names and contact details are 
routinely disclosed in response to FOI requests. Agencies must take all reasonable 
steps to minimise the risk of harm to staff to be compliant with their statutory 
obligations under section 19 of the Work Health and Safety Act 2011. As discussed, 
these known risks have evolved over time as a result of the changing digital 
environment.1 
I consider these comments are relevant to ABC staff in this context. If the names of 
staff, direct contact details or other identifying information are publicly disclosed 
under FOI, employees could be exposed to unwarranted public contact or criticism.  
Given the serious, sensitive and emotive subject matter of this investigation, 
employees could be subject to direct enquiries and/or pressure from members of the 
public in relation to the subject matter of the investigation or the subject area more 
broadly. I stress that I do not suggest that you personally would be responsible for 
such conduct, but the publication of the material via the ABC’s FOI disclosure log 
makes the information available to the world at large.  
The FOI Act places no limit on the dissemination of the information once it is released 
under FOI. The staff members who are mentioned in these documents have not 
consented to the public distribution of their identity or involvement in matters 
 
1  https://www.oaic.gov.au/freedom‐of‐information/guidance‐and‐advice/public‐servants‐names‐and‐contact‐details/  at 
20 October 2021 
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described in the documents, and would not be expected to speak on behalf of the 
ABC with respect to the subject matter of the investigation.  
In my view, revealing the identities and direct contact details of staff working at a 
level below the General Counsel on these matters would interfere with the effective 
management of those personnel by exposing them to the kind of unwelcome 
criticism or harassment that I have described above. For these reasons, I find that 
information in the documents is conditionally exempt under section 47E(c) of the FOI 
Act, and these details have been redacted. 
The public interest 
Conditionally exempt material must be released unless, in the circumstances, access 
at this time would, on balance, be contrary to the public interest (section 11A(5) of 
the FOI Act). I have considered the factors favouring access in section 11B(3) of the 
FOI Act and I have not taken into account factors that are irrelevant in section 11B(4).  
I have considered the following factors in favour of disclosure: 
a)  promoting the objects of the Act, particularly in increasing scrutiny, 
discussion, comment and review of the Government's activities 
(section 3(2)(b) of the FOI Act) 
b)  informing debate on a matter of public importance, namely the conduct of 
inquiries in to allegations of wrongdoing by former Commonwealth 
employees; and 
c)  facilitating access to information to members of the public that allows them 
to be satisfied that proper processes have been followed by the agency. 
I have considered the following factors against disclosure: 
a)  protecting individuals from unreasonable interferences with their privacy 
b)  protecting staff from occupational health and safety risks 
c)  preserving reasonably held expectations of confidentiality and trust between 
employees and the ABC. 
In this case, I have formed the view that disclosure of the information will make a 
limited contribution to those factors that favour disclosure. The contribution of the 
named employees to the investigation is minimal as the documents in which they are 
named are largely procedural and incidental to the investigation. 
However, the factors that weigh against disclosure are significant. Disclosure of the 
information will do little to further inform public debate or increase scrutiny of 
Government affairs (Warren; Chief Executive Officer, Services Australia and 
(Freedom of information
) [2020] AATA 4557 at [136]). I find the public interest in 
protecting individuals from unreasonable interferences with their privacy and the 
obligation of the ABC to look after the wellbeing of its employees outweighs any 
public interest in the disclosure of the information.  
Accordingly, I have concluded that disclosure would, on balance, be contrary to the 
public interest and that those documents are exempt in part under section 47E(c) of 
the FOI Act.  
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Section 47F – personal privacy 
Section 47F conditionally exempts a document to the extent that its disclosure 
would involve the unreasonable disclosure of personal information about any 
person. 
Personal information 
Section 4 of the FOI Act provides that personal information has the same meaning as 
in the Privacy Act 1988. Personal information is defined in section 6 of the Privacy Act 
as: 
... information or an opinion about an identified individual, or an individual who is 
reasonably identifiable: 
(a) whether the information or opinion is true or not 
(b) whether the information or opinion is recorded in a material form or not.  
The documents contain information including the mobile phone number of the (then) 
ABC General Counsel, the mobile phone number of external counsel and the full 
name and mobile phone number of external counsel’s legal assistant.  I am satisfied 
that all of these parts of documents over which an exemption under section 47F is 
claimed, contain personal information. 
Whether or not the disclosure is unreasonable 
If information is personal information, it will be conditionally exempt if disclosure 
would be ‘unreasonable’.  Paragraph 6.138 of the Guidelines provides that the 
personal privacy exemption is designed to prevent the unreasonable invasion of 
their parties’ privacy, which implies a need to balance the public interest in 
disclosure of government-held information and the private interest in the privacy of 
individuals. 
In considering whether disclosure would be unreasonable, section 47F(2) of the FOI 
Act requires me to take into account: 
  the extent to which the information is well known 
  whether the person to whom the information relates is known to be (or to 
have been) associated with the matters dealt with in the document 
  the availability of the information from publicly accessible sources 
  any other matter I consider relevant. 
Paragraph 6.142 of the Guidelines provides that key factors for determining whether 
disclosure is unreasonable include: 
  the author of the document is identifiable 
  the documents contain third party personal information 
  release of the documents would cause stress on the third party 
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  no public purpose would be achieved through release. 
I have also considered whether any public purpose is achieved through release. I do 
not consider that any obvious public interest arises on the disclosure of external 
counsel’s or General Counsel’s mobile number or the name or mobile number of her 
legal assistant. On the other hand, there is a considerable risk to an individual’s right 
to privacy and the stress that disclosure would cause the individuals involved. On 
that basis, I have concluded that disclosure of the information would be 
unreasonable. 
I find that these parts of documents are conditionally exempt in part under section 
47F of the FOI Act.  
The public interest 
The above discussion of the public interest in regards to section 47E(c) is also largely 
relevant to s 47F. In relation to this exemption, I have weighted limited public interest 
in the release of this information against the protection of individuals from 
unreasonable interferences with their privacy. Accordingly, I have decided that the 
documents are exempt part under section 47F of the FOI Act. 
Review rights 
Your review rights are set out in Annexure A.  
Yours sincerely 
 
Pamela Longstaff 
Head of Corporate Governance & FOI Decision Maker 
xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xx 
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Schedule 1 
Document Schedule - FOI 2021-036 
No. 
Date 
Description 
No. of 
Access 
Exemptions applied 
Notes 
Pages 
decision 
29 August 2017 
Observations in brief to 
Refuse in full 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
1.   

counsel  
privilege 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
2.   
Undated 
Dramatis personae 

Refuse in full 
privilege 
Refuse in full 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
3.   Undated 
Chronology 

privilege 
Refuse in full 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
4.   
Various 
Interview notes  
17 
privilege 
Refuse in full 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
5.   Various 
Records 
of 
telephone calls  
11 
privilege 
Refuse in full 
S 42 – legal professional 
 
6.   
13 August 2018 
Draft report 
57 
privilege 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
7.   
5 November 2018 
Report 
88 
privilege 
Grant access 
S 47E(c) – management of 
 
8.   
6 November 2018 
Letter from Counsel 

in part 
personnel 
16 March 2018 
Searches to obtain contact 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
9.   
details for potential 

privilege 
interviewees 
28 August 2017 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
 
10.  
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
Undated 
Attachment: NSW Government  3 Grant 
access 
 
Publicly available 
11.  
Guiding Principles 
in full 
Legal   ABC Ultimo Centre, 700 Harris Street, Ultimo NSW 2007 
GPO Box 9994 Sydney NSW 2001 | Email: xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xx  
 
 
 

No. 
Date 
Description 
No. of 
Access 
Exemptions applied 
Notes 
Pages 
decision 
29 August 2017 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
 
12.  
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
29 August 2017 
Attachment: Costs Disclosure 
7 Grant 
access 
 
 
13.  
and Agreement 
in full 
29 August 2017 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
 
14.  
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
29 August 2017 
Attachment: Brief 
52 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
15.  
privilege 
16.  
28-30 September 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
2017 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
17.  
Various Attachment: 
Records 
of 
 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of Document 
telephone calls 
privilege 

18.  
28 September 2017  Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
19.  
Various Attachment: 
Chronology 
10 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
privilege 
20.  
3 October 2017 
Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
21.  
Undated Attachment: 
Document 

Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
privilege 
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No. 
Date 
Description 
No. of 
Access 
Exemptions applied 
Notes 
Pages 
decision 
22.  
10 October 2017 
Advice 
11 
Refuse in full 
S 42- legal professional 
 
privilege 
23.  
Various Email 
chain 

Grant 
access 
S 42 - legal professional 
Irrelevant information 
in part 
privilege 
deleted under section 
S 47F – personal privacy 
22 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
24.  
Various Email 
chain 

Grant 
access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
25.  
30 November 2017 
Attachment:  Status update 

Refuse in full 
S 42- legal professional 
 
privilege 
26.  
5 April 2018 
Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
27.  
Various 
Email chain re meeting 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
Irrelevant information 
in part 
privilege 
deleted under section 
S 47F – personal privacy 
22 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
28.  
30 April 2018 
Email chain re updates 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
29.  
10 July 2018 
Email chain re updates on 
4 Grant 
access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
report 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
Page 10 of 13 
 

No. 
Date 
Description 
No. of 
Access 
Exemptions applied 
Notes 
Pages 
decision 
30.  
10 July 2018 
Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
31.  
Various Attachment: 
Interview 
notes 

Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of 4 
privilege 
32.  
10 July 2018 
Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
33.  
Various Attachment: 
Interview 
notes 

Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of 4 
privilege 
34.  
9 August 2018 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
 
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
35.  
13 August 2018 
Email 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
36.  
Various 
Attachment: Draft Report 
57 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
privilege 
37.  
24 August 2018 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
38.  
Various Attachment: 
Document 
10 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
privilege 
Page 11 of 13 
 

No. 
Date 
Description 
No. of 
Access 
Exemptions applied 
Notes 
Pages 
decision 
39.  
28 August 2018 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
S 47F – personal privacy 
S 47E(c) – management of 
personnel 
40.  
19 September 2018  Email  

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
in part 
privilege 
41.  
Various Attachment: 
Interview 
notes 

Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of 4 
privilege 
42.  
7 October 2018 
Email 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
Irrelevant information 
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
deleted under section 
personnel 
22 
43.  
5 October 2018 
Attachment: Final report 
84 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of 8 
privilege 
44.  
8 October 2018 
Email chain 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
Irrelevant information 
in part 
S 47E(c) – management of 
deleted under section 
personnel 
22 
45.  
5 October 2018 
Attachment: Updated Brief 
11 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
 
index 
privilege 
6 November 2018 
Tax Invoice 

Grant access 
S 42 - legal professional 
Irrelevant information 
in part 
privilege 
deleted under section 
46.  
S 47E(c) – management of 
22 
personnel 
16 October 2017 
Email 

Grant access 
S 47F – personal privacy 
 
47.  
in part 
10 October 2017 
Attachment:  Advice 
10 
Refuse in full 
S 42 - legal professional 
Duplicate of 23 
48.  
privilege 
 
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Annexure A – Your Review Rights 
If you are dissatisfied with this decision you can apply for Internal Review by the ABC, or 
Information Commissioner (IC) Review. You do not have to apply for Internal Review before 
seeking IC Review. 
APPLICATION FOR INTERNAL REVIEW  
You have the right to apply for an internal review of the decision refusing to grant access to 
documents in accordance with your request. If you apply for an internal review, the Managing 
Director will appoint an officer of the Corporation (not the person who made the initial 
decision) to conduct a review and make a fresh decision. 
You must apply in writing for an internal review of the decision within 30 days of receipt of 
this letter. No particular form is required, although it would help if you set out the reasons for 
review in your application. 
Application for a review of the original decision should be emailed to ABC: xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xx 
or addressed to:  
The FOI Coordinator 
ABC 
Level 13 
700 Harris Street 
ULTIMO NSW 2007 
 
Application for Information Commissioner (IC) Review 
Alternatively, you have the right to apply for a review by the Information Commissioner of the 
decision refusing to grant access to documents in accordance with your request. Your 
application must: 
  be in writing; 
  be made within 60 days of receipt of this letter; 
  give details of how notices may be sent to you (for instance, by providing an email 
address); and 
  include a copy of the decision for which a review sought. 
 
The Information Commissioner has a discretion not to undertake a review (see Division 5, FOI 
Act). Please refer to the OAIC website FOI review process page for further information and/or 
to access the online form for applying for IC review: 
https://www.oaic.gov.au/freedom-of-information/foi-review-process 
Alternatively, application for IC Review can be emailed to:  xxxxxxxxx@xxxx.xxx.xx  or   
addressed to:  
Director of FOI Dispute Resolution 
GPO Box 5218 
Sydney NSW 2001 
COMPLAINTS TO THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER 
You may complain to the Information Commissioner about any action taken by the ABC in the 
performance of functions, or exercise of powers, under the FOI Act. The Information 
Commissioner may make inquiries for the purpose of determining whether or not to 
investigate a complaint.  
Complaints can be made in writing to:    OAIC - GPO Box 5218 Sydney NSW 2001 
 
Legal   ABC Ultimo Centre, 700 Harris Street, Ultimo NSW 2007 
GPO Box 9994 Sydney NSW 2001 | Email: xxx.xxx@xxx.xxx.xx