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Liam Edwards-Playne

Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I note the recent media release stating that "Survey of Income and Housing results will not be released".

This was stated to be because of these reasons:

(1) "‘While we were compiling the statistics for SIH 2023-24, we found serious shortcomings in the questionnaire design and data collection processes that we could not overcome, despite our best efforts."

(2) "‘This is partly because collecting data from households has become more difficult and costly in recent years. This is being experienced by statistical offices around the world."

I request the following:
1. Details of the short comings in the questionnaire and data collection processes
2. Details of the increase in cost of data collection
3. Any meeting minutes/transcripts/communications which amount to the decision taken here

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

Kristina Chan, Australian Bureau of Statistics

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Dear Liam

Please find attached the response from the ABS regarding your Freedom of
Information request.
(See attached file: Consultation FOI202526-02.pdf)
Kind regards,
 
ABS FOI Team
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Bureau of Statistics
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Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I note the recent media release stating that "Survey of Income and Housing
results will not be released".

This was stated to be because of these reasons:

(1) "‘While we were compiling the statistics for SIH 2023-24, we found
serious shortcomings in the questionnaire design and data collection
processes that we could not overcome, despite our best efforts."

(2) "‘This is partly because collecting data from households has become
more difficult and costly in recent years. This is being experienced by
statistical offices around the world."

I request the following:

1. Details of the short comings in the questionnaire and data collection
processes

2. Details of the increase in cost of data collection

3. Any meeting minutes/transcripts/communications which amount to the
decision taken here

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

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Liam Edwards-Playne

Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I had previously replied to your initial refusal email, but it appears RightToKnow has been buggy lately.

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to hereby revise my request.

I seek access to the following categories of documents, all dated between 1 January 2023 and 30 June 2025, held by the SIH Survey team or the Data Collection and Service Improvement Branch (including Senior Executive Staff but excluding drafts and routine correspondence):

• Final reports or memoranda that identify and describe the specific shortcomings in the SIH 2023–24 questionnaire design and data‑collection processes.
• Cost‑analysis documents (summary or working papers) detailing the increase in data‑collection costs for SIH 2023–24 relative to SIH 2021–22 or SIH 2022–23.
• Minutes, agendas or final minutes of meetings (including any steering‑committee, governance‑board or executive‑management meetings) where the decision was made not to release the SIH 2023–24 results, or where the issues above were discussed and resolved.

I confirm that I do not require draft versions, personal email chains or documents outside the branches and date range specified. If further narrowing is needed, I am happy to discuss limiting the request to one or two specific meetings or particular cost‑breakdown tables.

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

Angalea Turnbull, Australian Bureau of Statistics

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Hi Liam,

Thanks for your email and revised request.

I would like to discuss your request and assist in confirming a new scope,
could you please provide a phone number to contact you on today?

Alternatively, you can call us on 02 6252 5956.

Kind regards,

ABS FOI Team
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Bureau of Statistics
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Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I had previously replied to your initial refusal email, but it appears
RightToKnow has been buggy lately.

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to hereby revise my request.

I seek access to the following categories of documents, all dated
between 1 January 2023 and 30 June 2025, held by the SIH Survey team or
the Data Collection and Service Improvement Branch (including Senior
Executive Staff but excluding drafts and routine correspondence):

• Final reports or memoranda that identify and describe the specific
shortcomings in the SIH 2023–24 questionnaire design and data‑collection
processes.

• Cost‑analysis documents (summary or working papers) detailing the
increase in data‑collection costs for SIH 2023–24 relative to SIH 2021–22
or SIH 2022–23.

• Minutes, agendas or final minutes of meetings (including any
steering‑committee, governance‑board or executive‑management meetings)
where the decision was made not to release the SIH 2023–24 results, or
where the issues above were discussed and resolved.

I confirm that I do not require draft versions, personal email chains or
documents outside the branches and date range specified. If further
narrowing is needed, I am happy to discuss limiting the request to one or
two specific meetings or particular cost‑breakdown tables.

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

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Hi Liam,

We have tried to contact you regarding the scope of your request.

Please contact us on the details below or respond with a contact number at
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Hi Liam,

Thanks for your email and revised request.

I would like to discuss your request and assist in confirming a new scope,
could you please provide a phone number to contact you on today?

Alternatively, you can call us on 02 6252 5956.

Kind regards,

ABS FOI Team
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Bureau of Statistics
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Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I had previously replied to your initial refusal email, but it appears
RightToKnow has been buggy lately.

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to hereby revise my request.

I seek access to the following categories of documents, all dated
between 1 January 2023 and 30 June 2025, held by the SIH Survey team or
the Data Collection and Service Improvement Branch (including Senior
Executive Staff but excluding drafts and routine correspondence):

• Final reports or memoranda that identify and describe the specific
shortcomings in the SIH 2023–24 questionnaire design and data‑collection
processes.

• Cost‑analysis documents (summary or working papers) detailing the
increase in data‑collection costs for SIH 2023–24 relative to SIH 2021–22
or SIH 2022–23.

• Minutes, agendas or final minutes of meetings (including any
steering‑committee, governance‑board or executive‑management meetings)
where the decision was made not to release the SIH 2023–24 results, or
where the issues above were discussed and resolved.

I confirm that I do not require draft versions, personal email chains or
documents outside the branches and date range specified. If further
narrowing is needed, I am happy to discuss limiting the request to one or
two specific meetings or particular cost‑breakdown tables.

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

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Good morning Liam,

Please find attached the ABS response to your FOI request.

(See attached file: ABS Response to your FOI request.pdf)

Regards,

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Please contact us on the details below or respond with a contact number at
your earliest convenience.

Kind regards

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could you please provide a phone number to contact you on today?

Alternatively, you can call us on 02 6252 5956.

Kind regards,

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Dear Australian Bureau of Statistics,

I had previously replied to your initial refusal email, but it appears
RightToKnow has been buggy lately.

Thank you for your reply.

I would like to hereby revise my request.

I seek access to the following categories of documents, all dated
between 1 January 2023 and 30 June 2025, held by the SIH Survey team or
the Data Collection and Service Improvement Branch (including Senior
Executive Staff but excluding drafts and routine correspondence):

• Final reports or memoranda that identify and describe the specific
shortcomings in the SIH 2023–24 questionnaire design and data‑collection
processes.

• Cost‑analysis documents (summary or working papers) detailing the
increase in data‑collection costs for SIH 2023–24 relative to SIH 2021–22
or SIH 2022–23.

• Minutes, agendas or final minutes of meetings (including any
steering‑committee, governance‑board or executive‑management meetings)
where the decision was made not to release the SIH 2023–24 results, or
where the issues above were discussed and resolved.

I confirm that I do not require draft versions, personal email chains or
documents outside the branches and date range specified. If further
narrowing is needed, I am happy to discuss limiting the request to one or
two specific meetings or particular cost‑breakdown tables.

Yours faithfully,

Liam Edwards-Playne

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