OFFICIAL

Dear Ms Minnucci

Thank you for your email below.

We would like to clarify the scope of your FOI request.

Airservices has published detailed information regarding the Hobart
Community and Industry Suggested Alternatives and the now archived Hobart
Airspace Design Review on its Engage website.

The Engage web pages include various links to documents containing Hobart
RWY30 and RWY12 flight maps covering departing and arrival flight paths
since 2017. The web pages can be accessed via:

o [1]Hobart Community and Industry Suggested Alternatives | Engage
Airservices (includes relevant documents from Oct 2022 – Nov 2024)
o [2]Hobart Airspace Design Review | Engage Airservices (includes
relevant documents from 2017 – April 2022).

Examples of documents include:

o [3]2017 Documents

o [4]Environmental Assessment - 28 June 2017.pdf (1.17 MB) (pdf)
o [5]Hobart Airport Changes to Arrival and Departure Flight Paths
Fact Sheet - September 2017 (1.92 MB) (pdf)
o [6]Hobart Runway 30 STAR Review Report - November 2017.pdf (2.9
MB) (pdf)

o Post Implementation Review (PIR) documents 2021

o [7]PIR Resources | Hobart Airspace Design Review | Engage
Airservices

o [8]Recommendation 4_Hobart RNP-AR Relocation (published Nov 2024)  

Further to the above, please clarify whether the scope of your request is
seeking access to:

i. documents captured by the Engage web pages as referenced/linked above;
or
ii. documents that may have been released publicly (online or at community
engagement sessions) that are not captured or documented in the Engage
website as referenced above. Please include any additional information
to assist our understanding of the scope of your request.

Kind regards

Kathryn

[9]Website

Freedom of Information

Email [Airservices request email]

GPO Box 367, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia

Important: This message may contain confidential or legally privileged
information. If you think it was sent to you by mistake, please delete all
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OFFICIAL

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OFFICIAL

Dear Ms Minnucci

Thank you for your response below, however, we need to further refine the
scope of your request please.

We have interpreted your revised request to cover:

i. the Hobart departing and arriving flight paths that were in place prior
to the flight path changes implemented in September 2017; and
ii. the current Hobart departing and arriving flight paths that include
both international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths.

If the above interpretation is correct, please confirm whether:

 1. paragraphs i. and ii. of your revised request is seeking copies of
google earth images overlaid with flight paths (which you also refer
to as ‘flight path maps’ in your correspondence). For example:  

 2. If your answer is yes to clarification question number 1 above, please
confirm our understanding that:

 a. Figure 1 illustrating arrival flights paths to runway 30 one
month prior to the flight path changes implemented in September
2017 taken from page 3 of the following report
[1]17-0122-BKT-HobartReviewReport.pdf_072bba732f2647f0ad0d99c32a358ae4
would satisfy part of paragraph i. of your revised FOI request;
and
 b. Figure 3 on page 7 of
[2]YMHB_NewSIDS-STARS_EnvAssessment_28Jun17_webpage.pdf_839d13667d5d23a56b1ad5c62ebffb5c
that depicts arrival (in red) and departure (in green) flight
paths in February 2017 would satisfy all of paragraph i. of your
revised FOI request as Figure 3 ‘depicts the Hobart departing and
arriving flight paths that were in place prior to the flight path
changes implemented in September 2017’.  

 3. If your answer is yes to clarification question number 2 above, please
confirm the remaining scope of your FOI request is:

Requesting a copy of current Hobart departing and arriving flight paths
(i.e. google earth images overlaid with flight paths) that includes both
international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths

 4. If the revised scope in clarification question number 3 above is not
accurate, please provide further information to assist our
understanding and to guide our document searches. Please also provide
a copy of or link to the March 2025 map referred to in your
correspondence below.

Kind regards

Kathryn 

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Dear Ms Minnucci

We are still waiting for a response from you regarding our email below on
30 April 2025 seeking clarification on the scope of your FOI request.

A formal requirement of making an FOI request is that the request must
provide such information as is reasonably necessary to enable a
responsible officer of an agency to identify the document that is
requested (s 15(2)(b)).

We confirm the 30-day statutory period for processing your request will
commence once you’ve provided us with information requested to enable us
to identify the document.  

Kind regards

Kathryn  

OFFICIAL

From: MBX FOI <[Airservices request email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2025 1:42 PM
To: Cathy Minnucci <[FOI #13051 email]>
Cc: MBX FOI <[Airservices request email]>
Subject: RE: Seek clarification: Freedom of Information request - RWY30
and RWY12 flight maps for Hobart Airport

OFFICIAL

Dear Ms Minnucci

Thank you for your response below, however, we need to further refine the
scope of your request please.

We have interpreted your revised request to cover:

i. the Hobart departing and arriving flight paths that were in place prior
to the flight path changes implemented in September 2017; and
ii. the current Hobart departing and arriving flight paths that include
both international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths.

If the above interpretation is correct, please confirm whether:

 1. paragraphs i. and ii. of your revised request is seeking copies of
google earth images overlaid with flight paths (which you also refer
to as ‘flight path maps’ in your correspondence). For example:  

 2. If your answer is yes to clarification question number 1 above, please
confirm our understanding that:

 a. Figure 1 illustrating arrival flights paths to runway 30 one
month prior to the flight path changes implemented in September
2017 taken from page 3 of the following report
[1]17-0122-BKT-HobartReviewReport.pdf_072bba732f2647f0ad0d99c32a358ae4
would satisfy part of paragraph i. of your revised FOI request;
and
 b. Figure 3 on page 7 of
[2]YMHB_NewSIDS-STARS_EnvAssessment_28Jun17_webpage.pdf_839d13667d5d23a56b1ad5c62ebffb5c
that depicts arrival (in red) and departure (in green) flight
paths in February 2017 would satisfy all of paragraph i. of your
revised FOI request as Figure 3 ‘depicts the Hobart departing and
arriving flight paths that were in place prior to the flight path
changes implemented in September 2017’.  

 3. If your answer is yes to clarification question number 2 above, please
confirm the remaining scope of your FOI request is:

Requesting a copy of current Hobart departing and arriving flight paths
(i.e. google earth images overlaid with flight paths) that includes both
international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths

 4. If the revised scope in clarification question number 3 above is not
accurate, please provide further information to assist our
understanding and to guide our document searches. Please also provide
a copy of or link to the March 2025 map referred to in your
correspondence below.

Kind regards

Kathryn 

OFFICIAL

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Good afternoon Ms Minnucci

We never ignore correspondence from any of our FOI applicants and your
accusation of dishonesty on our part is offensive.

We have no record of receipt of the email you have pasted below as being
DELIVERED to the Airservices FOI mailbox on 30 April 2025 nor do we have
anything to indicate there were any issues with the Airservices FOI
mailbox on or around that day.  Otherwise, we would have responded
consistent with our approach willingness to engage with you to-date
throughout this matter.

Our engagement with you comprises us spending a number of hours liaising
with internal stakeholders, drafting detailed responses to you and
including additional information in our effort to clarify your request and
to identify the ‘flight maps’ you are seeking. The follow up email earlier
today is further evidence of our continued effort to engage with you in
accordance with our FOI obligations to clarify your request.

While we have no trace of the email you have pasted below as being
DELIVERED to the Airservices FOI mailbox on 30 April 2025, we will record
it as being received by us on that date. This means if we can identify the
document you require from the information you provided in that email, the
FOI request is considered a valid request on and from that date and the
30-day statutory processing period will commence the day after receipt
(i.e. 1 May 2025).

The relevant part of your email dated 30 April 2025 is as follows:

I need a copy of the Hobart flight paths BEFORE all changes were made.

To make it clear-

1: please provide 2016 flight map/s which incorporate all arrivals and
departures into Hobart Airport.

2: YES: Requesting a copy of current Hobart departing and arriving flight
paths

(i.e. google earth images overlaid with flight paths) that includes both

international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths.

In regard to 2: March 2025 image was provided to Hobart CACG's March
Meeting by ASA representative. When queried about image it was confirmed
to be the 2019 flight map.

This map would have no bearing on my request as per no 2.

Hope this helps narrow it down.

Our assessment of the information above is as follows:

 A. We confirm we have reached consensus that the documents being sought
by you (i.e. flight path maps) are google earth images overlaid with
flight paths.
 B. We can identify the document being requested in relation to ‘a copy of
current (2025) Hobart departing and arriving flight paths (i.e. google
earth images overlaid with flight paths) that includes both
international and domestic arrival and departure flight paths’
 C. We cannot identify the document being requested in relation to ‘please
provide 2016 flight map/s which incorporate all arrivals and
departures into Hobart Airport ‘ noting this phrase does not
correspond with the clarification questions in our email dated 30
April 2025 and also introduces a new date (i.e. 2016 as opposed to
2017) to the scope of your request for no apparent or clear reason.
Please respond to our clarification questions, specifically 2b
regarding the google earth image overlaid with flight paths that
depicts arrival (in red) and departure (in green) flight paths in
February 2017 that were in place prior to the flight path changes that
were implemented in September 2017.  

We will continue to process your request under para B above with a due
date for a decision being 30 May 2025.

We confirm we are not processing para C above as we still cannot identify
the document being requested and will wait for your response in in this
regard.

Kind regards

Kathryn 

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Dear Ms Minnucci

Please find the decision for F25-20 attached.

Kind regards,

[1]Website

Freedom of Information

Email [Airservices request email]

GPO Box 367, Canberra ACT 2601, Australia

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information. If you think it was sent to you by mistake, please delete all
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all copies of this email and any attachments.

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